Stop with the water bottle it is Messy

I do this but use a cookie sheet and hook my ground wire to that and do not mess with that entire spray bottle water thing.  What a mess.  Just dabs of White glue or Yellow wood glue on wax and or parchment paper laying in a metal cookie sheet or stainless steel medical tray.

I agree, you don't need to use water

For once, I agree with AzBaja. You don't need water and I have used aluminum foil and clipped the ground wire to that.

Ken Glover and aluminum foil

Ken Glover and aluminum foil too!  all work

AzBaja

I'm running this through my mind because it didn't quite make sense to me at first. But let's see if I have it -

You place the wax paper in a cookie sheet, put the dabs of glue on the paper, clip the ground wire of the static grass dispenser to the cookie sheet (or any convenient sheet of metal, I suppose), and fire it up?

So the grounding side of the electrical connection only needs to be _under_ where the glue and grass are going, you do not need the current actually flowing through the glue?

I ask this because my only experience with static grass was directly on the layout, and you needed to connect the ground to the wet glue to get the circuit to complete over the entire area.

No wax paper and no water

You don't need wax paper or water. Just put full strength white glue dabs on a spare cookie sheet, clamp the static grass applicator ground wire to the edge of the sheet and shake away.

Once they're dry, the tufts pop right up off the cookie sheet with a hobby knife or a razor blade.

I too was kind of shaking my head and rolling my eyes at the wax paper and water thing. Much messier and far more complicated than needed. Get a cheap cookie sheet off Amazon and have at it. Easy peasy.

Wow! Cut back on the caffeine dude!

I'm running this through my

 Yes, it will work through wax paper.  You have a made very basic capacitor with the wax paper and the cookie trey.   If you feel real brave you can layer some aluminum foil between some layers of wax paper then roll them up on a dowel.  You have just made a capacitor that will knock your socks off it it shocked you.

The wax paper is just to protect the tray or save your tuffs,  you can also use a nice stainless steel medical trey and razer them off if you plan on using them right away and not store them for latter use.

I too was kind of shaking my

It seems like to me.  he has seen the idea, but did not understand the concept/instructions.   

Foiled Again?

I use non-stick aluminum foil.  Glue pops off easily, much more so than when using wax paper.  I tried wax paper at first, then found that non-stick foil was preferable in every way.

WHAT'S Expensive

It seemed the whole idea behind the Ken P. presentation of whats neat was to save money.......he states : " as the Silflor items are expensive " and that brand is expensive.  Then the Noch static grass applicator comes out. That little item is in the $179 (on sale) to $200 range. If someone can afford the Noch applicator, then money should not a big problem.

There are a lot of grass tufts available on evil bay and other brands available in the $9 to $11 range. And there are some home made grass applicators that work well ( like the ones made from a "Horror Freight" electronic fly swatter.......less than $10 for all parts required ) and there is the added challenge of doing it yourself and the self satisfaction that comes with that. Then there is the price of a bag or two or three of static grass. I guess it all boils down to a persons hobby budget and what you figure your time is worth. This is just my opinion and my observation as an older modeler on a budget. Saving money and still having fun.....thats my 2 cents worth.

i totally disagree on the

i totally disagree on the what is expensive comment.  A 170-200 tool that is a buy once item that uses relativly inexpensive Static grass and glue vs the cost of buying the pre built clumps  is a huge savings for a medium to large layout in and of itself.  

Add in that the static grass machine has uses ither then making clumps and therefore you will want at least a cheap one anyway and it is an even better deal.

Plus you get more variety of clumps building your own.  So bonus point.  And you can insert the clump with a area you covered with static grass as the two are the identical material so blend together.

As for buying an expensive tool,  i am to poor to be able yo aford to buy cheep tools.  I cant afford the replacement cost when the break or don't work nor can i afford to pay the coat in wasted materials and supplies.  So once i get a bit more into building scenery i fully expect to replace my old home made system i inhereted from my father with a much nicer system such as the noch because ultimatly it is the cheeper option when you factor in the costcof covering a large layout.

-Doug M

Cookie Sheet?

If your SO won't let you use the cookie sheets, a disposable aluminum pan or tray is cheap and just as effective, and a little more robust than foil....

Wife: Hey Honey have you seen

Wife: Hey Honey have you seen my cookie sheets?

Me: Not that I remember.

Rick Sutton

exactly,  why the wax paper   but I got my own stainless steal tray for stuff like this now

Why the wax paper?

Disposable, sacrificial, cheap surface. Ken was using what might have been some pretty aggressive glues (like the Gorilla ones). If they had bound to the metal of the cookie sheet, it could have been a tough cleanup job, or a permanently damaged cookie sheet.

He might have also not been thinking totally straight -  he posted on Facebook Monday that he and his wife of 30 years are divorcing, a process that they have been going through for the past 8 weeks. https://www.facebook.com/ken.patterson.507679

This video was made during that period.

Why the wax paper?

Why as in to use 

Yeah, I was a bit surprised

Yeah, I was a bit surprised at this segment too. I thought this was old hat by this point.(as much as any Static grass applications are...at least in the US. I assume European modelers are all laughing at us.)

To clear up on the Static electricity. It is creating a field of electricity. Even on the layout, you don't need to stick the electrode in the glue. In fact I do everything I can to avoid it. You stick the electrode as close to the application area as possible and it will affect everything within a certain radius of that point. 

As others have stated. The wax or parchment paper is a benefit if you intend to save the tufts for later and don't want to worry about them being damaged, but you don't NEED it. Old cookie sheets are in my mind the best, because they are nice and strong and rigid. Aluminum foil and cheap foil sheets and pans flex more which is not a bad thing per se, but I find them more likely to get damaged when sitting around waiting for the glue to dry.

A couple of clarifications

Yeah, my cookie sheets etc. look pretty crappy!  But hey........they're dollar store cheepos and this is about as good as it gets for their long term prospects.

 This may have been covered but the tray can be lightly sprayed with Armor-All or a bit of a rubdown with petroleum jelly to act as a release agent (much like we use on rock molds).

 And (if anyone looked closely) you'll noticed that the gunk on the sheets is paint. Once the glue has dried and the loose grass is recovered I decant some Krylon camoflauge spray paint, load it into an airbrush and give those tufts some extra variation in color. Once the paint dries they come off the pans, the bases are trimmed and then the fun begins.

Exactly

That's exactly what I have done -- bought my own cheapo cookie sheets dedicated to layout static grass tuft use.

Much better than wax paper, IMO.

Az

By the way......those 3 squares of scenery in your first post are spectacular. What are your plans for those?

Test Squares

The trash at some point...  They are just done to show what the brown paint on my layout might look like someday.  When I get tired off operations I might make the layout look like that.

Cookie sheets are pretty

Cookie sheets are pretty cheep as far as that goes.  I have tried the wax paper and the glue would not pull free so i ended up with bit of paper that mad it a pain to work with.  (white glue and yellow)

BTW those cookie sheets with the dark residue from baking actully brown better then shinny cockie sheets so dont take you S.O. cookie sheets just because they look messed up or you may end up in trouble.  Just buy yourself a new one for a few buck.  

-Doug M