Rich S

Some asked for “how-to” info on the scratch-built pine trees. My first attempt was an epic fail. I tapered a dowel and drilled holes for individual caspia branches. I figured drilling holes in the trunk would be the tedious part, but that’s not the case. I have a drill press and a V-block, so I can drill the holes in the trunk in under 10 minutes. I takes me about 5 minutes to taper the trunk, using the drill press & sand paper. The time consuming part was the branches. Not attaching them, that only took about 20 to 30 minutes. The caspia turned out to be more trouble than its worth. Selecting an appropriate looking piece, cutting and trimming the buds off the tips, shaping it, etc., and trimming to length. And once it’s on the trunk, you really can’t trim the length of the branches and shape the tree without ruining the appearance of the branch.  It became apparent right away that the branches were wrong....not enough secondary and tertiary shoots off the main branches. The result looked like Charlie Brown’s Christmas tree. I put it out of its misery and tossed it. I (and photobucket, thanks you) have deleted all photographic evidence of it.

Then I saw a thread on therailwire Scenery Techniques forum (since killed by photobucket) with awesome trees. This lead me to a youtube video (with English & German graphics), which I believe is by the same author from therailwire forum. He wrapped a wire around a tapered trunk forming branches by extending loops outward from the trunk, clipping the end of the loop and spreading the branches. I tried this method, but I couldn’t wrap it around the trunk tight enough, it would always uncoil. So, I had a little brainstorm and decided to combine the 2 methods. Sort of.

I tapered and drilled the trunk as before, drilling 0.040” thru holes. I use floral wire, insert 2 thru each hole for branches. Some holes need to be opened a bit more with a drill in a pin vise and I need to add a drop of CA glue at the trunk to keep some of the loose ones from spinning. Then spread the branches, trim the wires and shape the tree. Much more flexibility and margin for error than the caspia branches. Spray with adhesive and cover the trunk with fine-sifted sawdust. Then I spray-paint it a brownish gray (or a grayish brown?), let it dry of course, then spray with adhesive and applied long (1/4”) static grass to form the secondary and smaller branch structure. (The first few trees I spray painted after the first static grass application, but the paint didn’t get thru to the trunk in some areas and there were bare sawdust in some spots.) Apply static grass only from above or below, this keeps it off the trunk. Next was another coat of brown/gray spray paint. Then I applied shorter static grass in the same manner for the needles.  

I work in steps.....taper some dowels, drill holes, cut/insert wires, etc. All of this can be done a few minutes at a time, when I can only get to the train room for a few minutes. Being able to make such incremental progress, 10 or 20 minutes at a time, keeps it from becoming tedious.  I estimate if I worked on a single tree from start to finish, it would take 45 to 60 minutes, excluding glue/paint dry time of course. 

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Rich S

foiled again....

foiled again....

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joef

Fixing the photos

To fix these photos and get them all upright, go to MY ACCOUNT> File Browser tab. Scroll down to find a photo you need to rotate and select it. At the top of the screen you should see a Rotate button. Use it to rotate the image to be right side up.

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Rich S

thanks Joe, i knew there had

thanks Joe, i knew there had to be a way...

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Rich S

altho.....after rotating,

altho.....after rotating, they appear correctly in the file browser window but not here....

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joef

Dont know why it didn't work

Don't know why it didn't work, but to fix it I finally downloaded your photos, renamed them, then uploaded the ones with a new name and used the renamed ones. I assume you're taking these with a phone or tablet. Take note of which way you're holding the phone or tablet and then take a series of four different photos, each one rotating the device 90 degrees. Then do a test upload of all the photos and take note of which photo was right side up. When taking photos for upload, make sure you're always holding the device in the orientation that is right side up. That's the easiest way to make sure your photos are always right side up.

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Rich S

thanks again...

thanks again...

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David Husman dave1905

Photos

Had the same problem.  I found that if I rotated it in MY ACCOUNTS, deleted it off the page and then reinserted it, they were oriented correctly.

 

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Mark67

Many thanks to share this

Many thanks to share this with us.

The result is awesome and I definitively have to try this method.

Duct tape turns a NO into a Hm-hm.

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grove den

I think it was me... yes

I think it was me... yes Photobucket killed all my pictures! =(

"He wrapped a wire around a tapered trunk forming branches by extending loops outward from the trunk, clipping the end of the loop and spreading the branches"

Without a wooden dowel it is too possible to make a solid frame for a pine tree. Just using a thicker wire:

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with this type of "construction"you can make almost any kind of - frames /trees

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I am sorry  I do not want to hijacking your thread  my apologize for it. 

By the way: you could make direct on the dowel a kind of bark imm. by using a sharp woodfile after tapering so no sawdust needed!

 

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dmbott

Can someone show static grass application sequence?

Both of those techniques, dowel and wire, result in models that are just wow.

I would love to see photo sequence, Jos. Consider new post/thread if you don’t want to hijack this thread.  Or send me photos directly. I’ll find a place for them with full credit to you.

A&Y Dave

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vggrek

If you type "static grass" in

If you type "static grass" in the search box you will find a lot.
https://forum.mrhmag.com/post/ultimate-guide-to-static-grass-12213072

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Chuck P

Sort of....

That just takes you to threads on putting static grass down on the layout as......grass.

Not what you should do, how, and sizes to use to replicate various tree needles and leaves.

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vggrek

The link i in my post is for

The link i in my post is for the "Ultimate guide to Static grass" and I think is what the title says.

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Chuck P

The title does

But the text talks about the trees that "A&Y Dave" posted.

I'd like to see it too.

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dmbott

I meant static grass applied to conifer tree armatures

Your suggested link does not give me what I requested, Vasilis, sorry.

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railandsail

Trees from Sisal (manila like) Rope

This is a method that I believe I saw a fellow demonstrating at a local train show a few months ago

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In all of them the basic material is the sisal, which in my case was removed in pieces from a rope.

  https://tutoriaisdeferreomodelismo.blogspot.com/2015/01/fazendo-pinheiros-coniferas-com-o.html

Be sure to hit the "translate" button on that site,...for english version

 

 

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Ted Becker rail.bird

Similar method

A similar method for making pine trees is using plastic bristles out of a broom or brush instead of wire.


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