Michael Tondee

At it's heart, the Black N' Blue is a logging railroad. The mine has brought new prosperity to the little line but logging was the original purpose for plying the rails into the rugged countryside. Unfortunately due to space constraints and my "givens and druthers" of what like to have on the layout, there's not a lot of room to model sawmills and lumber camps so for now I'm just content to give a small representation of logging through this single scene. Hopefully, in the future, my wife and I build our dream house, the line expands and I'm able to model a lot more of the logging side of things. That's the plan anyway.

First off before I go any further I have to give credit where credit is due so I'd like to give a  tip of my cap to Steve Brown of "It's My Railroad" YouTube fame. In the course of my searches about logging and log loading methods, I came across his video where he built an N-scale logging camp.

He apparently unearthed some of the same sources of photos that I did and I borrowed heavily from his design for my HO version but I used a bunch of my own construction methods to suit how I do things.

The area in question is just to the back and above the Olroy Feed and Farm Supply building and it's been an eyesore for awhile now. I really should have done this sooner because it's a tad hard to get to but inspiration strikes where and when it pleases for me. We'll take a look closeup and shows how bad the area looks....

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I knew I would eventually get to the load ramp here and the area is formed with a piece of blue extruded foam and I just slapped my base scenery colors on it and called it base level scenery  for the time being. It's a very small space and the idea here is just to create the suggestion of a logging operation. The first thing to be done is figuring out how long the loading area needed to be. I only have enough room for two cars to be loaded in the visible area of trackage although it does go a couple of more car lengths back into the corner and the track hides behind a small mountain outcrop. I used my trusty supply of " gift box cardboard" and a couple of cars to get a rough idea of where the structure needed to be...

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I'm going to need quite a few logs of a couple of different sizes so I got busy making those as I continued to try to reason out exactly what I wanted. I use a pretty standard method  making logs and tree trunks with craft store dowels. I whittle the dowels a little with a razor knife and then I rough them up with a saw blade to give a bark grain. Then I just use my garden variety acrylic craft store paints to color and weather them. I use browns, blacks and grays with a fairly wet brush and "stain" the logs. The next picture is an example of my work although these particular logs are a bit too big for my structure...

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While working out sizes and creating logs, I also took the time to dig out the foam to accommodate the loading ramp. This is all still a fluid process at this point because I'm really still just fleshing out how the ramp will look and fit into the scene...

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Michael, A.R.S. W4HIJ

 Model Rail, electronics experimenter and "mad scientist" for over 50 years.

Member of  "The Amigos" and staunch disciple of the "Wizard of Monterey"

My Pike: The Blackwater Island Logging&Mining Co.

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Michael Tondee

Fixing the scenery, gaining a name

Another major order of business is fixing the scenery. As already established there's not a lot of space here so what I did was cut a piece of foamcore to the shape I wanted and then I just simply covered it in ground foam and some preserved moss product that I use. The two pines had been pulled from another area of the layout when the hotel was put in and were looking pretty shabby from being stuffed in a box. I spruced them up and stuck them in a piece of foam that I carved to fit in a small hole between the loading area and a piece of removable mountain just to the left of the picture. As soon as I got it plugged into the hole, the name "Twin Pines" popped into my head. Yes, it's a bit cliche, but it works. I also did some touch up work on the backdrop and painted my card mockup/core black in preparation for adding the "logs" that form the structure...ines%201.jpg 

Michael, A.R.S. W4HIJ

 Model Rail, electronics experimenter and "mad scientist" for over 50 years.

Member of  "The Amigos" and staunch disciple of the "Wizard of Monterey"

My Pike: The Blackwater Island Logging&Mining Co.

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Michael Tondee

Bringing in the wood

The next step is too start making this look like something besides painted black cardboard. For this step I used spray adhesive to temporarily attach my small dowels to the card board and get them laid out. I tried to make them reasonably straight and uniform but not too much. After I was satisfied with the spacing, I more permanently affixed the dowels with thin CA. Normally I rough up and stain the dowels before using them but in this case I attached them first and then did the rough up and stain...ines%202.jpg 

Michael, A.R.S. W4HIJ

 Model Rail, electronics experimenter and "mad scientist" for over 50 years.

Member of  "The Amigos" and staunch disciple of the "Wizard of Monterey"

My Pike: The Blackwater Island Logging&Mining Co.

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Michael Tondee

Starting to look like something

I got lazy taking pictures and this picture is several more steps into building but I think it's pretty apparent how the construction is being carried out. It's now starting to look like something and I'm pleased with where I'm headed. It has to be fitted some more and a little more foam needs to come out but I think it's going to work out well. More to come...

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Michael, A.R.S. W4HIJ

 Model Rail, electronics experimenter and "mad scientist" for over 50 years.

Member of  "The Amigos" and staunch disciple of the "Wizard of Monterey"

My Pike: The Blackwater Island Logging&Mining Co.

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bkivey

"Starting to look like something"

Yes, it is. I see what you mean about access to the modeling. I'm trying to transition to building scenes off-layout and installing, but when you're modifying a 'built' scene, you take what you get. And sometimes you have to build a scene in place to see how it will work. 

Looking forward to the finish. 

 

 

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Michael Tondee

Main structure is in....

I got the main piece finished up and set in place today. Now I'm beginning to figure out how to address the ends. On the front of course, but I also may add a little bit of cribbing to the far end to try and give the impression the loading area continues. Working on the front now and also have some logs leading up onto the wagon way sitting in place. I employed my method of attaching the wood to  a cardboard backing again. I'm actually having to do this by having a small working area set up on the front of the benchwork and then stepping up on a step stool and leaning in to get to the scene. Not ideal, but plans for the hopeful and eventual version of the layout will have this area as part of a peninsula accessible from both sides. Just a little inconvenience to get to right now. The little building is a scratchbuild borrowed from my mill scene to give me an idea about squeezing a little log structure in...ines%204.jpg 

Michael, A.R.S. W4HIJ

 Model Rail, electronics experimenter and "mad scientist" for over 50 years.

Member of  "The Amigos" and staunch disciple of the "Wizard of Monterey"

My Pike: The Blackwater Island Logging&Mining Co.

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Michael Tondee

More progress

I worked late into last night and a tad bit this morning to get the scene to where it is now. Next up I will begin consideration of a shed or building to replace my stand in that needs to go back to my mill scene...

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Michael, A.R.S. W4HIJ

 Model Rail, electronics experimenter and "mad scientist" for over 50 years.

Member of  "The Amigos" and staunch disciple of the "Wizard of Monterey"

My Pike: The Blackwater Island Logging&Mining Co.

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Greg Amer gregamer

Looks great.

Great scene. I like the logs you’ve made a lot

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Michael Tondee

Just for giggles

I'm having a tough time getting moving this morning. It sure is fun playing with "sky replacement" in Affinity photo...

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Michael, A.R.S. W4HIJ

 Model Rail, electronics experimenter and "mad scientist" for over 50 years.

Member of  "The Amigos" and staunch disciple of the "Wizard of Monterey"

My Pike: The Blackwater Island Logging&Mining Co.

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Greg Amer gregamer

Wow!

Looks really good. If only I could have a backdrop like that.

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Russ Bellinis

Now you just need some stakes in the pockets of that flat car.

Title say it all.

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Michael Tondee

Stakes and other musings

I have them, still in the car box wrapped up in plastic. Also have another car in the box just like that one too. They are the Bachmann Silver Series. I got nothing done yesterday. Still cogitating over what type of small structure to put here. Definitely made of logs but horizontal log cabin type construction or a more crude, vertical arrangement of logs? A closed structure or some type of more open shed? The inspiration just hasn't struck yet.

On another note, I realized yesterday that I've hit another milestone here on the layout. The log loading area was the last major structure. I've probably got a few small little buildings I need here and there but nothing major.

I've gotten as far as I ever have in construction of a layout. First I got the whole thing to "base level" scenery where I had no bench work or bare plaster showing and now I have all the major structures in place.Next is larger details like signage, guard rails on bridges, fences etc. and then on down the line to the smaller and smaller stuff.

Hopefully, the wife and I get our dream house built here on our land and then a relatively small expansion of the layout happens. I don't want it to get too big, I long ago gave up my pursuit of "more", but I do want to turn what is now an "L" into an "E"

Enough rambling, anyone got any thoughts on the log ramp building?

Michael, A.R.S. W4HIJ

 Model Rail, electronics experimenter and "mad scientist" for over 50 years.

Member of  "The Amigos" and staunch disciple of the "Wizard of Monterey"

My Pike: The Blackwater Island Logging&Mining Co.

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Russ Bellinis

I am thinking that most log loading facilities are in the

mountains.  That would mean snow in winter.  I am thinking that the logging company would need someone on site to do paperwork connected with loading the flat cars and shipping them to the mill.  I think a small, rough shack, or an old boxcar or caboose with trucks removed and up on blocks with a pot bellied stove to keep the man warm in winter.  Maybe even an old flat car with a rough office like structure.  Don't forget the stove to keep your guy warm in winter.

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Michael Tondee

Building core

I came up with the core for the building today. I literally just stood at the layout with cardboard, scissors, pen and ruler and worked out what would fit and look good to my eye. I need some smaller lumber to put the front and side that will show on it. Painting the core like this helps me to visualize how the building fits in the scene. I've got two options where i might put it, originally where I had the stand in building or up on the small ridge. I'm leaning towards putting it on the ridge as in the second picture.

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Michael, A.R.S. W4HIJ

 Model Rail, electronics experimenter and "mad scientist" for over 50 years.

Member of  "The Amigos" and staunch disciple of the "Wizard of Monterey"

My Pike: The Blackwater Island Logging&Mining Co.

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Jackh

Shed

Ya need an out house. Shed could be used for tool storage and or lunch breaks.

Most were not made of logs. A few logs would provide all the planks needed to build a shed. If this is a left over site from a logging RR turned to using trucks, the shed would be an old and maybe pretty run down camp car of some sort. A lot of camp cars were kept on their trucks and hauled by rail from one camp to the next. I would pull the trucks off and prop it up on some heavy beams, one at each end with a set of steps or a crude ladder leading up to the door. Door was probably centered with maybe a window on either side.

Then you need a crane of some sort to lift the logs from the trucks or the landing onto the cars. An old donkey engine left in place would also work. In logging think, unless something new would really pay for itself use what you have on hand.

Your looking great so far.

Jack

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herronp

I like what you’re doing there........

.........Mike, looks great.  IMHO your building needs to be smaller or further away as it detracts the eye from the great log work of the ramp.

Thanks for sharing with us!

Peter

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bkivey

" . . . the last major structure."

And a good feeling it is. Congratulations. I recently finished the last major scene on the NPP, and after some detailing of a mill scene, will be 'done'. Well, need to formalize operations a bit, but the layout is more fun to operate when the vision is complete. 

 

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Michael Tondee

Done for now

I'm not working with a very big area so all I can go for is the impression and feel of a logging camp right now and I'm hoping to have more space to work with later on. I need to look into getting some details like maybe a steam donkey but for right now I have to call this phase of the project done and move on to some other stuff elsewhere. I've got all kinds of detailing to figure out and add all over the layout so the area will eventually get more attention and I will probably still be tweaking things for the next few days but so far I'm pleased with what I have...

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Michael, A.R.S. W4HIJ

 Model Rail, electronics experimenter and "mad scientist" for over 50 years.

Member of  "The Amigos" and staunch disciple of the "Wizard of Monterey"

My Pike: The Blackwater Island Logging&Mining Co.

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